Really?

Last night the thunderstorms hit out here in our little patch of the wider west. Here in northwestern Europe (and most other places on the planet apart from permanent deserts) this is par for the course. We get a warm spell for a couple of weeks, and as the humidity builds, it culminates in thunderstorms. This is perfectly natural and predictable and nothing to get concerned about. Unless you forgot to get the delicate items in.

We had our portable gazebo and other items of garden furniture in store, like my hammock, two days ago. Our farming neighbours have already done their hay cuts and stacked their big circular bales in hay barns ready for Winter. Our own meadows won’t be cut until the next warm spell in July as part of our rush control regimen. I’ve already managed to reduce the rushes on our land by almost half, and intend to keep up with our organic only approach, if only because I’m too cheap to buy commercial weed killer.

Highly entertained by the news of it being too hot for solar panels during the recent UK warm spell. This whole rush toward ‘renewables’ has wasted so much taxpayer dollar it’s been painful to watch. I’ve long said that solar and wind are a waste of time and money, because outside of a given set of operating conditions, they become not ‘renewables’ but ‘unreliables’. A far better choice would be SMR‘s for baseload and covering the intermittent demand with LNG powered turbines. Maybe pipe sewage directly into massive digesters and harvest the biogas at the sewage plant for later re-use would add another string to the Energy bow. Add in a 100% scalability factor (Build 200% capacity with planning for additional expansion) and we’d be golden.

By way of illustration, in my youth, I worked on several power station sites as they were refitted from coal to LNG. These outdated sites had and still have all the infrastructure to fit said sites with a Small Modular Reactor, like one of those which power Nuclear Submarines and ships. One of these would provide solid baseload for a large urban area, instead of an ugly forest of wind turbines, like we have in Sligo and Galway, or thousands of hectares of solar panels, blighting huge areas of natural beauty and destroying wildlife and habitat. Without the solid reliability of nuclear or LNG generated power.

Here’s my sums; a small modular reactor (SMR) rated at 300MW can run at high efficiency, putting out about 300MW on a 25 acre site. Once there’s a small barrier of mixed deciduous and conifer trees planted around it, you’d never know it was there. Same for a fracking site, only with a less than 5 acre footprint. And trees.

By contrast, a 160.5 metre plus tall 3MW rated wind turbine runs at a maximum 23% of rated capacity in ideal circumstances on just under 78 acres / 31.36 Hectare per turbine. So that’s 690KW (occasionally) off an area big enough to build 900MW capacity of predictable SMR baseload. And with Nuclear, LNG or biogas, you get to plant trees around the site. Something you can’t do around wind turbines and big solar arrays. Refuel every ten years. Reprocess waste. Less pollution. Fuel bills lowered, capacity expanded. Job done.

Feel free to correct me in the comments if I am not close. I like my version. And the extra trees it would bring. Never mind the CO2.

Now how come so many ‘experts’ can’t do simple stuff like that? Our Victorian forebears used to over-engineer and allow for extra capacity, why can’t we?

9 thoughts on “Really?

  1. Cavitation works on the shock wave from collapsing bubbles. It is the worst enemy in automotive cooling systems and ship propellers because it eats the metal away. The best example of just how much energy is stored in water is the Pistol Shrimp.

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    1. Cavitation eroding the main rotor and casing might limit the life span of such a unit.

      However, I’ve read the abstract of a recent paper claiming 90% efficiency from a ‘cavitation engine’ which seems to operate on an associated effect. Other research cited here. Combustion free steam generators? Interesting.

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  2. As far as I know, which admittedly is not much at all, the problem with any form of nuclear generation is disposing of spent fuel rods. I believe they have to be buried for a few hundred years, but nuclear would be the way forward if that problem got solved. I love your idea about the sewage, its something I’ve wondered about before and I fully agree with you about Victorian over engineering. Mind you, the gas harvested from sewage would be mostly methane, and some way of removing the foul smell would be needed.

    I know you are talking about electricity generation and not heating but personally I’m all for each individual house being as self sufficient as possible. Have you heard of the Griggs Cavitation Pump? If every house can have an air/ground source heat pump, then why can’t it have one of these that actually works?

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    1. Hydrosonic Pumps (Griggs cavitation) look interesting. It’s a technological rabbit hole I’ve never actually ventured down. They use a high speed ‘water hammer’ effect like a very fast hydraulic ram to heat water? Is that right?

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      1. Yes, a ‘water hammer’. The water flows through a drum, with a rotor inside leaving a very small gap around the outside (think washing machine). The rotor has holes in it, the number, size and depth of which determines whether you want hot water or steam. The upshot is, the only energy put in is the electric motor driving the drum.

        A ‘scientist’ quickly descended on Griggs and had the idea buried, saying that more energy was put out than the energy put in (over unity) and that Griggs had all his calculations wrong. Of course, in his own calculations, nowhere did he account for the energy stored in the water itself. I can’t say if this was on purpose but in the report you can see the scientist’s attitude from the start. Besides that, there was a working prototype installed in Albany fire station which he also ignored. So as a result the idea got smeared out of existence.

        Well, isn’t that a surprise? The old video I was going to link to, which tells the whole story and covers the ‘scientist’ Jed Rothwell’s investigation has been taken down by Youtube. At least Griggs is still alive, which is more than can be said of Stan Mayor, the inventor of the water driven dune buggy.

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        1. Mmm. Having looked (albeit in a cursory manner) at the theory and some working prototypes, all Griggs machine does is convert mechanical to heat energy without combustion by battering water around at high velocities in a very limited space.

          The ‘scientist’ who ‘debunked’ Griggs work didn’t look like he’d actually done any real research or he’d have found that while the claims of ‘130%’ energy gain were a bit questionable, overall the concept was valid and significant heat energy was produced. Heat produces Brownian motion in a gas or fluid, so why would inducing high levels of Brownian motion not produce heat?

          Most of the issues with Griggs cavitation engine are to do with the difficulties in producing a well balanced and durable main rotor at a reasonable cost.

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          1. There’s a company, can’t find their demo video but they are a brand new startup. They have taken the Griggs principle and developed a heating system that doesn’t use the rotor or chamber, instead they use rows of car fuel injectors as the water hammer. However, Griggs chamber was made of mild steel with a mild steel rotor. My own suggestion for improvement would be to face the rotor and the chamber with something like tungsten. This would last for quite a few years, then just the facing gets replaced. That would save the rotor and chamber and the only cost would be that of new facing. Just a guess, but I’d say it would make the cost of servicing pretty reasonable. Also, the rotor doesn’t have to be solid like Griggs’s, saving weight would allow for a smaller motor.

            If the video of the ‘scientist’ was still available you would see how he was already talking the idea down even on the way to Griggs workshop on his initial visit, saying that he ‘didn’t expect it to work’. Another aspect is, this ‘scientist’ was never invited by Griggs to do any ‘investigation’, he just popped up from nowhere. Personally I think he was paid by someone to ‘debunk’ the concept.

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            1. I’ve seen alternate designs for rotors using better quality materials and construction. The rotor built out of slices of a harder metal and the casing properly heat treated would extend longevity.

              Rows of car fuel injectors sound like an expensive option though.

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              1. Yes, wholly agreed on everything. I have seen a design for a rotor that is made up of discs like a motorcycle clutch, it seems that those would be easy to manufacture, cheap and easily replaceable. The holes are formed by notches in the circumference of the discs. Car fuel injectors would be more initially expensive as you say, however it would be a fraction of the cost of air/ground source heat pumps, and I’m estimating cost of servicing/replacement vs the period between services. Thank you for a very enjoyable discussion.

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